[Gluster-Maintainers] Lock down period merge process
Raghavendra Gowdappa
rgowdapp at redhat.com
Wed Aug 15 03:24:31 UTC 2018
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Nigel Babu <nigelb at redhat.com> wrote:
> I would trust tooling that prevents merges rather than good faith.
>
+1
I have worked on projects where we trust good faith, but still enforce that
> with tooling[1]. It's highly likely for one or two committers to be unaware
> of an ongoing lock down. As the number of maintainers increase, the chances
> of someone coming back from PTO and accidentally merging something is high.
>
> The extraneous situation exception applies even now. I expect the janitors
> who have commit access in the event of a lock down to use their judgment to
> merge such patches.
>
> [1]: https://mozilla-releng.net/treestatus
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:25 AM Shyam Ranganathan <srangana at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Maintainers,
>>
>> The following thread talks about a merge during a merge lockdown, with
>> differing view points (this mail is not to discuss the view points).
>>
>> The root of the problem is that we leave the current process to good
>> faith. If we have a simple rule that we will not merge anything during a
>> lock down period, this confusion and any future repetitions of the same
>> would not occur.
>>
>> I propose that we follow the simpler rule, and would like to hear
>> thoughts around this.
>>
>> This also means that in the future, we may not need to remove commit
>> access for other maintainers, as we do *not* follow a good faith policy,
>> and instead depend on being able to revert and announce on the threads
>> why we do so.
>>
>> Please note, if there are extraneous situations (say reported security
>> vulnerabilities that need fixes ASAP) we may need to loosen up the
>> stringency, as that would take precedence over the lock down. These
>> exceptions though, can be called out and hence treated as such.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Shyam
>>
>> PS: Added Yaniv to the CC as he reported the deviance
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Gluster-devel] Release 5: Master branch health report
>> (Week of 30th July)
>> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 23:22:09 +0300
>> From: Yaniv Kaul <ykaul at redhat.com>
>> To: Shyam Ranganathan <srangana at redhat.com>
>> CC: GlusterFS Maintainers <maintainers at gluster.org>, Gluster Devel
>> <gluster-devel at gluster.org>, Nigel Babu <nigelb at redhat.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 10:46 PM Shyam Ranganathan <srangana at redhat.com
>> <mailto:srangana at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/07/2018 02:58 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
>> > The intention is to stabilize master and not add more patches
>> that my
>> > destabilize it.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://review.gluster.org/#/c/20603/ has been merged.
>> > As far as I can see, it has nothing to do with stabilization and
>> should
>> > be reverted.
>>
>> Posted this on the gerrit review as well:
>>
>> <snip>
>> 4.1 does not have nightly tests, those run on master only.
>>
>>
>> That should change of course. We cannot strive for stability otherwise,
>> AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> Stability of master does not (will not), in the near term guarantee
>> stability of release branches, unless patches that impact code already
>> on release branches, get fixes on master and are back ported.
>>
>> Release branches get fixes back ported (as is normal), this fix and
>> its
>> merge should not impact current master stability in any way, and
>> neither
>> stability of 4.1 branch.
>> </snip>
>>
>> The current hold is on master, not on release branches. I agree that
>> merging further code changes on release branches (for example geo-rep
>> issues that are backported (see [1]), as there are tests that fail
>> regularly on master), may further destabilize the release branch. This
>> patch is not one of those.
>>
>>
>> Two issues I have with the merge:
>> 1. It just makes comparing master branch to release branch harder. For
>> example, to understand if there's a test that fails on master but
>> succeeds on release branch, or vice versa.
>> 2. It means we are not focused on stabilizing master branch.
>> Y.
>>
>>
>> Merging patches on release branches are allowed by release owners
>> only,
>> and usual practice is keeping the backlog low (merging weekly) in
>> these
>> cases as per the dashboard [1].
>>
>> Allowing for the above 2 reasons this patch was found,
>> - Not on master
>> - Not stabilizing or destabilizing the release branch
>> and hence was merged.
>>
>> If maintainers disagree I can revert the same.
>>
>> Shyam
>>
>> [1] Release 4.1 dashboard:
>>
>> https://review.gluster.org/#/projects/glusterfs,dashboards/
>> dashboard:4-1-dashboard
>>
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