[Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?

Wed Mar 24 22:12:00 UTC 2010

Please take your pro/con discussion of package management off line.
This is a gluster discussion list, not a sysadmin discussion list.

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Steve wrote:
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>> Datum: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:36:42 +0100
>> Von: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw at ithnet.com>
>> An: Ian Rogers <ian.rogers at contactclean.com>
>> CC: gluster-users at gluster.org
>> Betreff: Re: [Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?
> 
>> Ok, guys, honestly: it is allowed to learn (RMS fought for your right to
>> do so)
>> :-)
>> Really rarely in the open source universe you will find a piece of
>> software
>> that is as easy to compile and run as glusterfs. All you have to know
>> yourself
>> is how to use tar. Then enter the source directory and do "./configure ;
>> make ;
>> make install" What exactly is difficult to do? Why would you install
>> _some_
>> rpm that is outdated anyways (be it 2.0.9 or 3.0.2)?
>> Please don't tell you configure and drive LAMP but can't build glusterfs.
>> The docs for 5 apache config options are longer than the whole
>> glusterfs-source...
>>
> Sorry Stephan. But that is (sorry to write that): Bullshit.
> The source of Gusterfs is not small at all.
> 
> Regarding installing source vs RPM: Well... I install EVERYTHING from source (except if it is a closed source application). But I would never install from source if I would use a system that has RPM as their packaging system. Then I would still build RPMS and install RPMS. It's not difficult to make GlusterFS RPMS. Anyway... if you install everything from source by using "./configure ; make ; make install" then you probably have a ultra low amount of systems that you need to take care of (try doing that thing on many systems and still keep track what you have installed and what not). I would never ever pollute a system with "./configure ; make ; make install". There is a reason for packaging systems (RPM, DEB and friends). I use btw Gentoo Linux and installing from source is part of the idea behind Gentoo Linux.
> 
> 
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>>
> Steve
> 
> 
>> PS: yes, I know it's the user-list. 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:32 +0000
>> Ian Rogers <ian.rogers at contactclean.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just done part one of a writeup of my EC2 gluster LAMP installation
>>> at 
>>> http://www.sirgroane.net/2010/03/distributed-file-system-on-amazon-ec2/ 
>>> - may or may not be useful to you :-)
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On 24/03/2010 17:09, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
>>>> Yes, that's an idea. Thanx. That will be important for all the debian
>>>> clients, mostly lenny.
>>>>
>>>> I think waiting and testing a month is quite ok though.
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>> To have glusterfs 3.0.3 on ubuntu 9.10 you can also just install the
>>>>> debian package for gluster 3.0.3 with dpkg -i.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/glusterfs
>>>>>
>>>>> But then 10.04 is only a month away, so depends how much of a rush
>>>>> your in!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 16:45:40 Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>> Haha, there are loads of Linux distributions out there and even
>>>>>> strange OSes like *BSD or windooze or what's it called? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried out Gentoo a while ago but I droped it because all the
>>>>>> compiling took way too long. The big plus here is the big minus on
>>>>>> debian like systems. The current Ubuntu 9.10 for example has
>>>>>> glusterfs 2.0.9, period. If you want to have 3.0.2 then you have to
>>>>>> wait for Ubuntu 10.04 or you compile it.
>>>>>> But now that we have (almost) 10.04 with 3.0.2 I'll take this way.
>>>>>> Having such a system up and running on recent hardware is a matter
>>>>>> of maybe 10 or 20 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4
>>>>>>>> (server i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a
>>>>>>>> first glance it seems to be OK.
>>>>>>>> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
>>>>>>>> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit)
>>>>>>>> is my first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is
>>>>>>>> more the version of glusterfs which makes it stable or not,
>>>>>>>> isn't it? In the end I'd like to have a distributed&
>>>>>>>> replicated storage which provides data for a bunch of
>>>>>>>> (virtualized) LAMPS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TIA for your recommendations!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> I'm intrigued.  I had not realised that there were other options
>>>>>>> than Gentoo for use on a server?!  (Bang up to date, flexible
>>>>>>> configuration and strong support of various virtualisation
>>>>>>> solutions.  Slight negative in update speeds, but can be
>>>>>>> mitigated by using a binary package cache)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will try out those new fangled options you suggested above, but in
>>>>>>> the meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are fairly
>>>>>>> confident with your linux skills).  Big plug for linux-vservers
>>>>>>> also, especially in combination with some custom server profiles
>>>>>>> to define required software versions and options
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed W
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