[Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?

Steve steeeeeveee at gmx.net
Wed Mar 24 22:07:55 UTC 2010 

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> Datum: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:36:42 +0100
> Von: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw at ithnet.com>
> An: Ian Rogers <ian.rogers at contactclean.com>
> CC: gluster-users at gluster.org
> Betreff: Re: [Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?

> Ok, guys, honestly: it is allowed to learn (RMS fought for your right to
> do so)
> :-)
> Really rarely in the open source universe you will find a piece of
> software
> that is as easy to compile and run as glusterfs. All you have to know
> yourself
> is how to use tar. Then enter the source directory and do "./configure ;
> make ;
> make install" What exactly is difficult to do? Why would you install
> _some_
> rpm that is outdated anyways (be it 2.0.9 or 3.0.2)?
> Please don't tell you configure and drive LAMP but can't build glusterfs.
> The docs for 5 apache config options are longer than the whole
> glusterfs-source...
> 
Sorry Stephan. But that is (sorry to write that): Bullshit.
The source of Gusterfs is not small at all.

Regarding installing source vs RPM: Well... I install EVERYTHING from source (except if it is a closed source application). But I would never install from source if I would use a system that has RPM as their packaging system. Then I would still build RPMS and install RPMS. It's not difficult to make GlusterFS RPMS. Anyway... if you install everything from source by using "./configure ; make ; make install" then you probably have a ultra low amount of systems that you need to take care of (try doing that thing on many systems and still keep track what you have installed and what not). I would never ever pollute a system with "./configure ; make ; make install". There is a reason for packaging systems (RPM, DEB and friends). I use btw Gentoo Linux and installing from source is part of the idea behind Gentoo Linux.


> --
> Regards,
> Stephan
> 
Steve


> PS: yes, I know it's the user-list. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:32 +0000
> Ian Rogers <ian.rogers at contactclean.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've just done part one of a writeup of my EC2 gluster LAMP installation
> > at 
> > http://www.sirgroane.net/2010/03/distributed-file-system-on-amazon-ec2/ 
> > - may or may not be useful to you :-)
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > On 24/03/2010 17:09, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> > > Yes, that's an idea. Thanx. That will be important for all the debian
> > > clients, mostly lenny.
> > >
> > > I think waiting and testing a month is quite ok though.
> > >
> > >    
> > >> To have glusterfs 3.0.3 on ubuntu 9.10 you can also just install the
> > >> debian package for gluster 3.0.3 with dpkg -i.
> > >>
> > >> http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/glusterfs
> > >>
> > >> But then 10.04 is only a month away, so depends how much of a rush
> > >> your in!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 16:45:40 Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> > >>      
> > >>> Haha, there are loads of Linux distributions out there and even
> > >>> strange OSes like *BSD or windooze or what's it called? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> I tried out Gentoo a while ago but I droped it because all the
> > >>> compiling took way too long. The big plus here is the big minus on
> > >>> debian like systems. The current Ubuntu 9.10 for example has
> > >>> glusterfs 2.0.9, period. If you want to have 3.0.2 then you have to
> > >>> wait for Ubuntu 10.04 or you compile it.
> > >>> But now that we have (almost) 10.04 with 3.0.2 I'll take this way.
> > >>> Having such a system up and running on recent hardware is a matter
> > >>> of maybe 10 or 20 minutes.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>        
> > >>>> On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
> > >>>>          
> > >>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4
> > >>>>> (server i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a
> > >>>>> first glance it seems to be OK.
> > >>>>> The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
> > >>>>> production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit)
> > >>>>> is my first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is
> > >>>>> more the version of glusterfs which makes it stable or not,
> > >>>>> isn't it? In the end I'd like to have a distributed&
> > >>>>> replicated storage which provides data for a bunch of
> > >>>>> (virtualized) LAMPS.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> TIA for your recommendations!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>            
> > >>>> I'm intrigued.  I had not realised that there were other options
> > >>>> than Gentoo for use on a server?!  (Bang up to date, flexible
> > >>>> configuration and strong support of various virtualisation
> > >>>> solutions.  Slight negative in update speeds, but can be
> > >>>> mitigated by using a binary package cache)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will try out those new fangled options you suggested above, but in
> > >>>> the meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are fairly
> > >>>> confident with your linux skills).  Big plug for linux-vservers
> > >>>> also, especially in combination with some custom server profiles
> > >>>> to define required software versions and options
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Good luck
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ed W
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