[Gluster-users] Disabling read-ahead and io-cache for native fuse mounts

[Raghavendra Gowdappa]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:16 AM Manoj Pillai <mpillai at redhat.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:51 AM Raghavendra Gowdappa <rgowdapp at redhat.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Raghavendra Gowdappa <rgowdapp at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> All,
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>>> We've found perf xlators io-cache and read-ahead not adding any
>>> performance improvement. At best read-ahead is redundant due to kernel
>>> read-ahead
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>> One thing we are still figuring out is whether kernel read-ahead is
>> tunable. From what we've explored, it _looks_ like (may not be entirely
>> correct), ra is capped at 128KB. If that's the case, I am interested in few
>> things:
>> * Are there any realworld applications/usecases, which would benefit from
>> larger read-ahead (Manoj says block devices can do ra of 4MB)?
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> kernel read-ahead is adaptive but influenced by the read-ahead setting on
> the block device (/sys/block/<dev>/queue/read_ahead_kb), which can be
> tuned. For RHEL specifically, the default is 128KB (last I checked) but the
> default RHEL tuned-profile, throughput-performance, bumps that up to 4MB.
> It should be fairly easy to rig up a test  where 4MB read-ahead on the
> block device gives better performance than 128KB read-ahead.
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Thanks Manoj. To add to what Manoj said and give more context here,
Glusterfs being a fuse-based fs is not exposed as a block device. So,
that's the first problem of where/how to tune and I've listed other
problems earlier.


> -- Manoj
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> * Is the limit on kernel ra tunable a hard one? IOW, what does it take to
>> make it to do higher ra? If its difficult, can glusterfs read-ahead provide
>> the expected performance improvement for these applications that would
>> benefit from aggressive ra (as glusterfs can support larger ra sizes)?
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>> I am still inclined to prefer kernel ra as I think its more intelligent
>> and can identify more sequential patterns than Glusterfs read-ahead [1][2].
>> [1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2007/ols2007v2-pages-273-284.pdf
>> [2] https://lwn.net/Articles/155510/
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>> and at worst io-cache is degrading the performance for workloads that
>>> doesn't involve re-read. Given that VFS already have both these
>>> functionalities, I am proposing to have these two translators turned off by
>>> default for native fuse mounts.
>>>
>>> For non-native fuse mounts like gfapi (NFS-ganesha/samba) we can have
>>> these xlators on by having custom profiles. Comments?
>>>
>>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1665029
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Raghavendra
>>>
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