[Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario

Tue Mar 13 09:44:35 UTC 2018

Sorry - no time to play with that. But it’s simple to reproduce, just set up your of async nfs server, take my script and you will see on your own.
Ondrej

From: Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:pkarampu at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:41 AM
To: Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <andreas.ericsson at findity.com>; Gluster-users at gluster.org
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com<mailto:Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>> wrote:
Yes, I have had this in place already (well except of the negative cache, but enabling that did not make much effect).
To me, this is no surprise – nothing can match nfs performance for small files for obvious reasons:

Could you give profile info of the run you did with and without nl-cache? Please also provide your volume info output.

1.       Single server, does not have to deal with distributed locks

2.       Afaik, gluster does not support read/write delegations the same way NFS does.

3.       Glusterfs is FUSE based
Glusterfs supports NFS/SMB/fuse

4.       Glusterfs does not support async writes
It supports async writes. It has a feature called write-behind which does that.

Summary: If you do not need to scale out, stick with a single server (+DRBD optionally for HA), it will give you the best performance

Ondrej

From: Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:pkarampu at redhat.com<mailto:pkarampu at redhat.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:10 AM

To: Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com<mailto:Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <andreas.ericsson at findity.com<mailto:andreas.ericsson at findity.com>>; Gluster-users at gluster.org<mailto:Gluster-users at gluster.org>
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com<mailto:Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>> wrote:
Well, it might be close to the _synchronous_ nfs, but it is still well behind of the asynchronous nfs performance.
Simple script (bit extreme I know, but helps to draw the picture):

#!/bin/csh

set HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
set j=1
while ($j <= 7000)
   echo ahoj > test.$HOSTNAME.$j
   @ j++
end
rm -rf test.$HOSTNAME.*

Takes 9 seconds to execute on the NFS share, but 90 seconds on GlusterFS – i.e. 10 times slower.

Do you have the new features enabled?

performance.stat-prefetch=on
performance.cache-invalidation=on
performance.md-cache-timeout=600
network.inode-lru-limit=50000
performance.nl-cache=on
performance.nl-cache-timeout=600
network.inode-lru-limit=50000

Ondrej

From: Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:pkarampu at redhat.com<mailto:pkarampu at redhat.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:28 AM
To: Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com<mailto:Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <andreas.ericsson at findity.com<mailto:andreas.ericsson at findity.com>>; Gluster-users at gluster.org<mailto:Gluster-users at gluster.org>
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com<mailto:Ondrej.Valousek at s3group.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Gluster will never perform well for small files.
I believe there is  nothing you can do with this.

It is bad compared to a disk filesystem but I believe it is much closer to NFS now.

Andreas,
     Looking at your workload, I am suspecting there to be lot of LOOKUPs which reduce performance. Is it possible to do the following?

# gluster volume profile <volname> info incremental
#execute your workload
# gluster volume profile <volname> info incremental > /path/to/file/that/you/need/to/send/us

If the last line in there is LOOKUP, mostly we need to enable nl-cache feature and see how it performs.

Ondrej

From: gluster-users-bounces at gluster.org<mailto:gluster-users-bounces at gluster.org> [mailto:gluster-users-bounces at gluster.org<mailto:gluster-users-bounces at gluster.org>] On Behalf Of Andreas Ericsson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:47 PM
To: Gluster-users at gluster.org<mailto:Gluster-users at gluster.org>
Subject: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario

Heya fellas.

I've been struggling quite a lot to get glusterfs to perform even halfdecently with a write-intensive workload. Testnumbers are from gluster 3.10.7.

We store a bunch of small files in a doubly-tiered sha1 hash fanout directory structure. The directories themselves aren't overly full. Most of the data we write to gluster is "write once, read probably never", so 99% of all operations are of the write variety.

The network between servers is sound. 10gb network cards run over a 10gb (doh) switch. iperf reports 9.86Gbit/sec. ping reports a latency of 0.1 - 0.2 ms. There is no firewall, no packet inspection and no nothing between the servers, and the 10gb switch is the only path between the two machines, so traffic isn't going over some 2mbit wifi by accident.

Our main storage has always been really slow (write speed of roughly 1.5MiB/s), but I had long attributed that to the extremely slow disks we use to back it, so now that we're expanding I set up a new gluster cluster with state of the art NVMe SSD drives to boost performance. However, performance only hopped up to around 2.1MiB/s. Perplexed, I tried it first with a 3-node cluster using 2GB ramdrives, which got me up to 2.4MiB/s. My last resort was to use a single node running on ramdisk, just to 100% exclude any network shenanigans, but the write performance stayed at an absolutely abysmal 3MiB/s.

Writing straight to (the same) ramdisk gives me "normal" ramdisk speed (I don't actually remember the numbers, but my test that took 2 minutes with gluster completed before I had time to blink). Writing straight to the backing SSD drives gives me a throughput of 96MiB/sec.

The test itself writes 8494 files that I simply took randomly from our production environment, comprising a total of 63.4MiB (so average file size is just under 8k. Most are actually close to 4k though, with the occasional 2-or-so MB file in there.

I have googled and read a *lot* of performance-tuning guides, but the 3MiB/sec on single-node ramdisk seems to be far beyond the crippling one can cause by misconfiguration of a single system.

With this in mind; What sort of write performance can one reasonably hope to get with gluster? Assume a 3-node cluster running on top of (small) ramdisks on a fast and stable network. Is it just a bad fit for our workload?

/Andreas

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