[Gluster-users] Slow write times to gluster disk

Pranith Kumar Karampuri pkarampu at redhat.com
Thu May 11 15:32:16 UTC 2017


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Pat Haley <phaley at mit.edu> wrote:

>
> Hi Pranith,
>
> Unfortunately, we don't have similar hardware for a small scale test.  All
> we have is our production hardware.
>

You said something about /home partition which has lesser disks, we can
create plain distribute volume inside one of those directories. After we
are done, we can remove the setup. What do you say?


>
> Pat
>
>
>
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> On 05/11/2017 07:05 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
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>
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> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Pat Haley <phaley at mit.edu> wrote:
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>>
>> Hi Pranith,
>>
>> Since we are mounting the partitions as the bricks, I tried the dd test
>> writing to <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>. The
>> results without oflag=sync were 1.6 Gb/s (faster than gluster but not as
>> fast as I was expecting given the 1.2 Gb/s to the no-gluster area w/ fewer
>> disks).
>>
>
> Okay, then 1.6Gb/s is what we need to target for, considering your volume
> is just distribute. Is there any way you can do tests on similar hardware
> but at a small scale? Just so we can run the workload to learn more about
> the bottlenecks in the system? We can probably try to get the speed to
> 1.2Gb/s on your /home partition you were telling me yesterday. Let me know
> if that is something you are okay to do.
>
>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/10/2017 01:27 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Pat Haley <phaley at mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Pranith,
>>>
>>> Not entirely sure (this isn't my area of expertise).  I'll run your
>>> answer by some other people who are more familiar with this.
>>>
>>> I am also uncertain about how to interpret the results when we also add
>>> the dd tests writing to the /home area (no gluster, still on the same
>>> machine)
>>>
>>>    - dd test without oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
>>>    - gluster w/ fuse mount : 570 Mb/s
>>>       - gluster w/ nfs mount:  390 Mb/s
>>>       - nfs (no gluster):  1.2 Gb/s
>>>    - dd test with oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
>>>       - gluster w/ fuse mount:  5 Mb/s
>>>       - gluster w/ nfs mount:  200 Mb/s
>>>       - nfs (no gluster): 20 Mb/s
>>>
>>> Given that the non-gluster area is a RAID-6 of 4 disks while each brick
>>> of the gluster area is a RAID-6 of 32 disks, I would naively expect the
>>> writes to the gluster area to be roughly 8x faster than to the non-gluster.
>>>
>>
>> I think a better test is to try and write to a file using nfs without any
>> gluster to a location that is not inside the brick but someother location
>> that is on same disk(s). If you are mounting the partition as the brick,
>> then we can write to a file inside .glusterfs directory, something like
>> <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>.
>>
>>
>>> I still think we have a speed issue, I can't tell if fuse vs nfs is part
>>> of the problem.
>>>
>>
>> I got interested in the post because I read that fuse speed is lesser
>> than nfs speed which is counter-intuitive to my understanding. So wanted
>> clarifications. Now that I got my clarifications where fuse outperformed
>> nfs without sync, we can resume testing as described above and try to find
>> what it is. Based on your email-id I am guessing you are from Boston and I
>> am from Bangalore so if you are okay with doing this debugging for multiple
>> days because of timezones, I will be happy to help. Please be a bit patient
>> with me, I am under a release crunch but I am very curious with the problem
>> you posted.
>>
>>   Was there anything useful in the profiles?
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately profiles didn't help me much, I think we are collecting the
>> profiles from an active volume, so it has a lot of information that is not
>> pertaining to dd so it is difficult to find the contributions of dd. So I
>> went through your post again and found something I didn't pay much
>> attention to earlier i.e. oflag=sync, so did my own tests on my setup with
>> FUSE so sent that reply.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/10/2017 12:15 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay good. At least this validates my doubts. Handling O_SYNC in gluster
>>> NFS and fuse is a bit different.
>>> When application opens a file with O_SYNC on fuse mount then each write
>>> syscall has to be written to disk as part of the syscall where as in case
>>> of NFS, there is no concept of open. NFS performs write though a handle
>>> saying it needs to be a synchronous write, so write() syscall is performed
>>> first then it performs fsync(). so an write on an fd with O_SYNC becomes
>>> write+fsync. I am suspecting that when multiple threads do this
>>> write+fsync() operation on the same file, multiple writes are batched
>>> together to be written do disk so the throughput on the disk is increasing
>>> is my guess.
>>>
>>> Does it answer your doubts?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Pat Haley <phaley at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Without the oflag=sync and only a single test of each, the FUSE is
>>>> going faster than NFS:
>>>>
>>>> FUSE:
>>>> mseas-data2(dri_nascar)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576
>>>> of=zeros.txt conv=sync
>>>> 4096+0 records in
>>>> 4096+0 records out
>>>> 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.46961 s, 575 MB/s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NFS
>>>> mseas-data2(HYCOM)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt
>>>> conv=sync
>>>> 4096+0 records in
>>>> 4096+0 records out
>>>> 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 11.4264 s, 376 MB/s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/10/2017 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Could you let me know the speed without oflag=sync on both the mounts?
>>>> No need to collect profiles.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Pat Haley <phaley at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what I see now:
>>>>>
>>>>> [root at mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info
>>>>>
>>>>> Volume Name: data-volume
>>>>> Type: Distribute
>>>>> Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
>>>>> Status: Started
>>>>> Number of Bricks: 2
>>>>> Transport-type: tcp
>>>>> Bricks:
>>>>> Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
>>>>> Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
>>>>> Options Reconfigured:
>>>>> diagnostics.count-fop-hits: on
>>>>> diagnostics.latency-measurement: on
>>>>> nfs.exports-auth-enable: on
>>>>> diagnostics.brick-sys-log-level: WARNING
>>>>> performance.readdir-ahead: on
>>>>> nfs.disable: on
>>>>> nfs.export-volumes: off
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/10/2017 11:44 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the volume info you have?
>>>>>
>>>>> >*     [root at mseas-data2 <http://www.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users> ~]# gluster volume info
>>>>> *>>*     Volume Name: data-volume
>>>>> *>*     Type: Distribute
>>>>> *>*     Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
>>>>> *>*     Status: Started
>>>>> *>*     Number of Bricks: 2
>>>>> *>*     Transport-type: tcp
>>>>> *>*     Bricks:
>>>>> *>*     Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
>>>>> *>*     Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
>>>>> *>*     Options Reconfigured:
>>>>> *>*     performance.readdir-ahead: on
>>>>> *>*     nfs.disable: on
>>>>> *>*     nfs.export-volumes: off
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> ​I copied this from old thread from 2016. This is distribute volume.
>>>>> Did you change any of the options in between?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>>> Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley at mit.edu
>>>>> Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
>>>>> Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
>>>>> MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
>>>>> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
>>>>> Cambridge, MA  02139-4301
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Pranith
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>> Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley at mit.edu
>>>> Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
>>>> Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
>>>> MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
>>>> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
>>>> Cambridge, MA  02139-4301
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Pranith
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>> Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley at mit.edu
>>> Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
>>> Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
>>> MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
>>> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
>>> Cambridge, MA  02139-4301
>>>
>>> --
>> Pranith
>>
>> --
>>
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley at mit.edu
>> Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
>> Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
>> MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
>> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
>> Cambridge, MA  02139-4301
>>
>> --
> Pranith
>
> --
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Pat Haley                          Email:  phaley at mit.edu
> Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
> Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
> MIT, Room 5-213                    http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
> Cambridge, MA  02139-4301
>
>


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Pranith
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