[Gluster-users] managing slow drives in cluster

Jay Berkenbilt ejb at ql.org
Sat Jul 30 17:23:08 UTC 2016


We're using glusterfs in Amazon EC2 and observing certain behavior
involving EBS volumes. The basic situation is that, in some cases,
clients can write data to the file system at a rate such that the
gluster daemon on one or more of the nodes may block in disk wait for
longer than 42 seconds, causing gluster to decide that the brick is
down. In fact, it's not down, it's just slow. I believe it is possible
by looking at certain system data to tell the difference from the system
with the drive on it between down and working through its queue.

We are attempting a two-pronged approach to solving this problem:

1. We would like to figure out how to tune the system, including either
or both of adjusting kernel parameters or glusterd, to try to avoid
getting the system into the state of having so much data to flush out to
disk that it blocks in disk wait for such a long time.
2. We would like to see if we can make gluster more intelligent about
responding to the pings so that the client side is still getting a
response when the remote side is just behind and not down. Though I do
understand that, in some high performance environments, one may want to
consider a disk that's not keeping up to have failed, so this may have
to be a tunable parameter.

We have a small team that has been working on this problem for a couple
of weeks. I just joined the team on Friday. I am new to gluster, but I
am not at all new to low-level system programming, Linux administration,
etc. I'm very much open to the possibility of digging into the gluster
code and supplying patches if we can find a way to adjust the behavior
of gluster to make it behave better under these conditions.

So, here are my questions:

* Does anyone have experience with this type of issue who can offer any
suggestions on kernel parameters or gluster configurations we could play
with? We have several kernel parameters in mind and are starting to
measure their affect.
* Does anyone have any background on how we might be able to tell that
the system is getting itself into this state? Again, we have some ideas
on this already, mostly by using sysstat to monitor stuff, though
ultimately if we find a reliable way to do it, we'd probably code it
directly by looking at the relevant stuff in /proc from our own code. I
don't have the details with me right now.
* Can someone provide any pointers to where in the gluster code the ping
logic is handled and/or how one might go about making it a little smarter?
* Does my description of what we're dealing with suggest that we're just
missing something obvious? I jokingly asked the team whether they had
remembered to run glusterd with the --make-it-fast flag, but sometimes
there are solutions almost like that that we just overlook.

For what it's worth, we're running gluster 3.8 on CentOS 7 in EC2. We
see the problem the most strongly when using general purpose (gp2) EBS
volumes on higher performance but non-EBS optimized volumes where it's
pretty easy to overload the disk with traffic over the network. We can
mostly mitigate this by using provisioned I/O volumes or EBS optimized
volumes on slower instances where the disk outperforms what we can throw
at it over the network. Yet at our scale, switching to EBS optimization
would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and running slower
instances has obvious drawbacks. In the absence of a "real" solution, we
will probably end up trying to modify our software to throttle writes to
disk, but having to modify our software to keep from flooding the file
system seems like a really sad thing to have to do.

Thanks in advance for any pointers!

--Jay


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