[Gluster-users] Performance

[Mohit Anchlia]

In your experience does it really help having journal on different
disk? Just trying to see if it's worth the effort. Also, Gluster also
recommends creating mkfs with larger blocks mkfs -I 256

As always thanks for the suggestion.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Joe Landman
<landman at scalableinformatics.com> wrote:
> On 04/26/2011 05:48 PM, Mohit Anchlia wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure how valid this performance url is
>>
>>
>> http://www.gluster.com/community/documentation/index.php/Guide_to_Optimizing_GlusterFS
>>
>> Does it make sense to separate out the journal and create mkfs -I 256?
>>
>> Also, if I already have a file system on a different partition can I
>> still use it to store journal from other partition without corrupting
>> the file system?
>
> Journals are small write heavy.  You really want a raw device for them.  You
> do not want file system caching underneath them.
>
> Raw partition for an external journal is best.  Also, understand that ext*
> suffers badly under intense parallel loads.  Keep that in mind as you make
> your file system choice.
>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Joe Landman
>> <landman at scalableinformatics.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/21/2011 08:49 PM, Mohit Anchlia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> After lot of digging today finaly figured out that it's not really
>>>> using PERC controller but some Fusion MPT. Then it wasn't clear which
>>>
>>> PERC is a rebadged LSI based on the 1068E chip.
>>>
>>>> tool it supports. Finally I installed lsiutil and was able to change
>>>> the cache size.
>>>>
>>>> [root at dsdb1 ~]# lspci|grep LSI
>>>> 02:00.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068E
>>>> PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 08)
>>>
>>>  This looks like PERC.  These are roughly equivalent to the LSI 3081
>>> series.
>>>  These are not fast units.  There is a variant of this that does RAID6,
>>> its
>>> usually available as a software update or plugin module (button?) to
>>> this.
>>>  I might be thinking of the 1078 chip though.
>>>
>>>  Regardless, these are fairly old designs.
>>>
>>>
>>>> [root at dsdb1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/data/big.file bs=128k count=40k
>>>> oflag=direct
>>>> 1024+0 records in
>>>> 1024+0 records out
>>>> 134217728 bytes (134 MB) copied, 0.742517 seconds, 181 MB/s
>>>>
>>>> I compared this with SW RAID mdadm that I created yesterday on one of
>>>> the servers and I get around 300MB/s. I will test out first with what
>>>> we have before destroying and testing with mdadm.
>>>
>>> So the software RAID is giving you 300 MB/s and the hardware 'RAID' is
>>> giving you ~181 MB/s?  Seems a pretty simple choice :)
>>>
>>> BTW: The 300MB/s could also be a limitation of the PCIe channel
>>> interconnect
>>> (or worse, if they hung the chip off a PCIx bridge).  The motherboard
>>> vendors are generally loathe to put more than a few PCIe lanes for
>>> handling
>>> SATA, Networking, etc.  So typically you wind up with very low powered
>>> 'RAID' and 'SATA/SAS' on the motherboard, connected by PCIe x2 or x4 at
>>> most.  A number of motherboards have NICs that are served by a single
>>> PCIe
>>> x1 link.
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help that led me to this path. Another question I had
>>>> was when creating mdadm RAID does it make sense to use multipathing?
>>>
>>> Well, for a shared backend over a fabric, I'd say possibly.  For an
>>> internal
>>> connected set, I'd say no.  Given what you are doing with Gluster, I'd
>>> say
>>> that the additional expense/pain of setting up a multipath scenario
>>> probably
>>> isn't worth it.
>>>
>>> Gluster lets you get many of these benefits at a higher level in the
>>> stack.
>>>  Which to a degree, and in some use cases, obviates the need for
>>> multipathing at a lower level.  I'd still suggest real RAID at the lower
>>> level (RAID6, and sometimes RAID10 make the most sense) for the backing
>>> store.
>>>
>>>
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>
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> Scalable Informatics, Inc.
> email: landman at scalableinformatics.com
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