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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">02.08.2018 18:40, Ashish Pandey пишет:<br>
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        <div>I think it should be rephrased a little bit -<br>
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        <div>"When one brick is up: Fail FOP with EIO."</div>
        <div>should be <br>
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        <div>"When only one brick is up out of 3 bricks: Fail FOP with
          EIO."</div>
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        <div>So we have 2 data bricks and one thin arbiter brick. Out of
          these 3 bricks if only one brick is UP then we will fail IO.</div>
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        <div>---<br>
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        <div>Ashish<br>
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    Hello!<br>
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    Thank you!<br>
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    This is what we need :-)<br>
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          </b>"Dmitry Melekhov" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dm@belkam.com">&lt;dm@belkam.com&gt;</a><br>
          <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gluster-users@gluster.org">gluster-users@gluster.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:atumball@redhat.com">atumball@redhat.com</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:59:41 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gluster-users] thin arbiter vs standard
          arbiter<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">01.08.2018 22:04, Amar Tumballi
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              <div><span>This recently added document talks about some
                  of the technicalities of the feature:</span>
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                <div><a
href="https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Administrator%20Guide/Thin-Arbiter-Volumes/"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Administrator%20Guide/Thin-Arbiter-Volumes/</a><br
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                <div>Please go through and see if it answers your
                  questions.</div>
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                <div>-Amar</div>
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          Hello!<br>
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          I have question:<br>
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          Manual says:<br>
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          "When one brick is up: Fail FOP with EIO."<br>
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          So, if we have 2 nodes with thin arbiter and only one node is
          up, i.e. second node is down for some reason, then I/O will be
          stopped.<br>
          Any reasons to have two nodes then?<br>
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          Could you tell me is manual right here or it is misprint?<br>
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          Thank you!<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:09
                    PM, wkmail <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote">I see mentions of
                      thin arbiter in the 4.x notes and I am intrigued.<br>
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                      As I understand it, the thin arbiter volume is<br>
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                      a) receives its data on an async basis (thus it
                      can be on a slower link). Thus gluster isn't
                      waiting around to verify if it actually got the
                      data.<br>
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                      b) is only consulted in situations where Gluster
                      needs that third vote, otherwise it is not
                      consulted.<br>
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                      c) Performance should therefore be better because
                      Gluster is only seriously talking to 2 nodes
                      instead of 3 nodes (as in normal arbiter or rep 3)<br>
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                      Am I correct?<br>
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                      If so, is thin arbiter ready for production or at
                      least use on non-critical workloads?<br>
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                      How safe is it for VMs images (and/or VMs with
                      sharding)?<br>
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                      How much faster is thin arbiter setup over a
                      normal arbiter given that the normal data only
                      really sees the metadata?<br>
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                      In a degraded situation (i.e. loss of one real
                      node), would having a thin arbiter on a slow link
                      be problematic until everything is healed and
                      returned to normal?<br>
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                      Sincerely,<br>
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                      -wk<br>
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