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      On 8/1/18 11:04 AM, Amar Tumballi wrote:<br>
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    Well yes that does answer some. By skipping a lot more of the
    arbiter traffic, there may be some noticeable performance benefits
    especially in an older 1G network.<br>
    At least until you have to deal with a failure situation.<br>
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    Though the "would you use it on a VM, either now or when the code is
    more seasoned?" question is still there.<br>
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    I'm willing to try it out on some non-critical VMs (cloud-native
    stuff, where I always spawn from a golden image), but if it is not
    ready for production, then I don't want to bother with it at the
    moment.<br>
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    -wk<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:09 PM,
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I see mentions of
                thin arbiter in the 4.x notes and I am intrigued.<br>
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                As I understand it, the thin arbiter volume is<br>
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                a) receives its data on an async basis (thus it can be
                on a slower link). Thus gluster isn't waiting around to
                verify if it actually got the data.<br>
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                b) is only consulted in situations where Gluster needs
                that third vote, otherwise it is not consulted.<br>
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                c) Performance should therefore be better because
                Gluster is only seriously talking to 2 nodes instead of
                3 nodes (as in normal arbiter or rep 3)<br>
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                Am I correct?<br>
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                If so, is thin arbiter ready for production or at least
                use on non-critical workloads?<br>
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                How safe is it for VMs images (and/or VMs with
                sharding)?<br>
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                How much faster is thin arbiter setup over a normal
                arbiter given that the normal data only really sees the
                metadata?<br>
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                In a degraded situation (i.e. loss of one real node),
                would having a thin arbiter on a slow link be
                problematic until everything is healed and returned to
                normal?<br>
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                Sincerely,<br>
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                -wk<br>
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