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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes, I have had this in place already (well except of the negative cache, but enabling that did not make much effect).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To me, this is no surprise – nothing can match nfs performance for small files for obvious reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Single server, does not have to deal with distributed locks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Afaik, gluster does not support read/write delegations the same way NFS does.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Glusterfs is FUSE based<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Glusterfs does not support async writes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Summary: If you do not need to scale out, stick with a single server (+DRBD optionally for HA), it will give you the best performance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ondrej<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ondrej Valousek <Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Andreas Ericsson <andreas.ericsson@findity.com>; Gluster-users@gluster.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Ondrej Valousek <<a href="mailto:Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com" target="_blank">Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Well, it might be close to the _<i>synchronous</i>_ nfs, but it is still well behind of the asynchronous nfs performance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">#!/bin/csh</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> @ j++</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Takes 9 seconds to execute on the NFS share, but 90 seconds on GlusterFS – i.e. 10 times slower.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">performance.stat-prefetch=on<br>
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network.inode-lru-limit=50000<o:p></o:p></p>
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performance.nl-cache=on<br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ondrej</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ondrej Valousek <<a href="mailto:Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com" target="_blank">Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Andreas Ericsson <<a href="mailto:andreas.ericsson@findity.com" target="_blank">andreas.ericsson@findity.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Gluster-users@gluster.org" target="_blank">Gluster-users@gluster.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Ondrej Valousek <<a href="mailto:Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com" target="_blank">Ondrej.Valousek@s3group.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gluster will never perform well for small files.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I believe there is nothing you can do with this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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It is bad compared to a disk filesystem but I believe it is much closer to NFS now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Andreas,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Looking at your workload, I am suspecting there to be lot of LOOKUPs which reduce performance. Is it possible to do the following?<o:p></o:p></p>
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# gluster volume profile <volname> info incremental<o:p></o:p></p>
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#execute your workload<o:p></o:p></p>
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# gluster volume profile <volname> info incremental > /path/to/file/that/you/need/to/send/us<o:p></o:p></p>
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If the last line in there is LOOKUP, mostly we need to enable nl-cache feature and see how it performs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ondrej</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gluster-users-bounces@gluster.org" target="_blank">gluster-users-bounces@gluster.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gluster-users-bounces@gluster.org" target="_blank">gluster-users-bounces@gluster.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andreas Ericsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 12, 2018 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Gluster-users@gluster.org" target="_blank">Gluster-users@gluster.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gluster-users] Expected performance for WORM scenario</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I've been struggling quite a lot to get glusterfs to perform even halfdecently with a write-intensive workload. Testnumbers are from gluster 3.10.7.<o:p></o:p></p>
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We store a bunch of small files in a doubly-tiered sha1 hash fanout directory structure. The directories themselves aren't overly full. Most of the data we write to gluster is "write once, read probably never", so 99% of all operations are of the write variety.<o:p></o:p></p>
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The network between servers is sound. 10gb network cards run over a 10gb (doh) switch. iperf reports 9.86Gbit/sec. ping reports a latency of 0.1 - 0.2 ms. There is no firewall, no packet inspection and no nothing between the servers, and the 10gb switch is
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Our main storage has always been really slow (write speed of roughly 1.5MiB/s), but I had long attributed that to the extremely slow disks we use to back it, so now that we're expanding I set up a new gluster cluster with state of the art NVMe SSD drives to
boost performance. However, performance only hopped up to around 2.1MiB/s. Perplexed, I tried it first with a 3-node cluster using 2GB ramdrives, which got me up to 2.4MiB/s. My last resort was to use a single node running on ramdisk, just to 100% exclude
any network shenanigans, but the write performance stayed at an absolutely abysmal 3MiB/s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Writing straight to (the same) ramdisk gives me "normal" ramdisk speed (I don't actually remember the numbers, but my test that took 2 minutes with gluster completed before I had time to blink). Writing straight to the backing SSD drives gives me a throughput
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The test itself writes 8494 files that I simply took randomly from our production environment, comprising a total of 63.4MiB (so average file size is just under 8k. Most are actually close to 4k though, with the occasional 2-or-so MB file in there.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I have googled and read a *lot* of performance-tuning guides, but the 3MiB/sec on single-node ramdisk seems to be far beyond the crippling one can cause by misconfiguration of a single system.<o:p></o:p></p>
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With this in mind; What sort of write performance can one reasonably hope to get with gluster? Assume a 3-node cluster running on top of (small) ramdisks on a fast and stable network. Is it just a bad fit for our workload?<o:p></o:p></p>
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