<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Joe Julian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@julianfamily.org" target="_blank">joe@julianfamily.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 05/26/2017 11:38 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:<br>
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<td>Re: GlusterFS removal from Openstack Cinder</td>
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<td>Fri, 05 May 2017 21:07:27 +0000</td>
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<td>Amye Scavarda <a class="gmail-m_3738023526885967788m_5077080422628517801moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amye@redhat.com" target="_blank"><amye@redhat.com></a></td>
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<td>Eric Harney <a class="gmail-m_3738023526885967788m_5077080422628517801moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eharney@redhat.com" target="_blank"><eharney@redhat.com></a>,
Joe Julian <a class="gmail-m_3738023526885967788m_5077080422628517801moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:me@joejulian.name" target="_blank"><me@joejulian.name></a>,
Vijay Bellur <a class="gmail-m_3738023526885967788m_5077080422628517801moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vbellur@redhat.com" target="_blank"><vbellur@redhat.com></a></td>
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<div>Eric, </div>
<div>I'm sorry to hear this. </div>
<div>I'm reaching out internally (within Gluster CI
team and CentOS CI which supports Gluster) to get an
idea of the level of effort we'll need to provide to
resolve this. </div>
<div>It'll take me a few days to get this, but this is
on my radar. In the meantime, is there somewhere I
should be looking at for requirements to meet this
gateway? </div>
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<div>Thanks! </div>
<div>-- amye </div>
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<div>On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 16:09 Joe Julian <<a href="mailto:me@joejulian.name" target="_blank">me@joejulian.name</a>>
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>> On 04/28/2017 12:41 PM, Joe Julian
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>>> I learned, today, that GlusterFS
was deprecated and removed from<br>
>>> Cinder as one of our #gluster
(freenode) users was attempting to<br>
>>> upgrade openstack. I could find no
rational nor discussion of that<br>
>>> removal. Could you please educate
me about that decision?<br>
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> Hi Joe,<br>
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> I can fill in on the rationale here.<br>
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> Keeping a driver in the Cinder tree
requires running a CI platform to<br>
> test that driver and report results against
all patchsets submitted to<br>
> Cinder. This is a fairly large burden,
which we could not meet once the<br>
> Gluster Cinder driver was no longer an
active development target at Red Hat.<br>
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> This was communicated via a warning issued
by the driver for anyone<br>
> running the OpenStack Newton code, and via
the Cinder release notes for<br>
> the Ocata release. (I can see in
retrospect that this was probably not<br>
> communicated widely enough.)<br>
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> I apologize for not reaching out to the
Gluster community about this.<br>
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> If someone from the Gluster world is
interested in bringing this driver<br>
> back, I can help coordinate there. But it
will require someone stepping<br>
> in in a big way to maintain it.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Eric<br>
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Ah, Red Hat's statement that the acquisition of
InkTank was not an<br>
abandonment of Gluster seems rather disingenuous
now. I'm disappointed.<br>
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<div>I am a Red Hat employee working on gluster and I am
happy with the kind of investments the company did in
GlusterFS. Still am. It is a pretty good company and
really open. I never had any trouble saying something the
management did is wrong when I strongly felt and they
would give a decent reason for their decision.<br>
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Happy to hear that. Still looks like meddling to an outsider. Not
the Gluster team's fault though (although more participation of the
developers in community meetings would probably help with that
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Would you please start a thread on the
gluster-users and gluster-devel<br>
mailing lists and see if there's anyone willing
to take ownership of<br>
this. I'm certainly willing to participate as
well but my $dayjob has<br>
gone more kubernetes than openstack so I have
only my limited free time<br>
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<div>Do we know what would maintaining cinder as active
entail? Did Eric get back to any of you?<br>
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Haven't heard anything more, no.<span class="gmail-"><br>
<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> Policies for maintaining an active driver in cinder can be found at [1] and [2]. We will need some work to let the driver be active again (after a revert of the commit that removed the driver from cinder) and provide CI support as entailed in [2].</div><div><br></div><div>I will co-ordinate further internal discussions within Red Hat on this topic and provide an update soon on how we can proceed here.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Vijay</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver</a></div><div><br></div><div>[2] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers</a></div><div> </div></div><br></div></div>