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                  04/13/17 23:50, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at
                          10:28 AM, Ravishankar N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ravishankar@redhat.com" target="_blank">ravishankar@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                                Pat,<br>
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                                I&#39;m assuming you are using gluster
                                native (fuse mount). If it helps, you
                                could try mounting it via gluster NFS
                                (gnfs) and then see if there is an
                                improvement in speed. Fuse mounts are
                                slower than gnfs mounts but you get the
                                benefit of avoiding a single point of
                                failure. Unlike fuse mounts, if the
                                gluster node containing the gnfs server
                                goes down, all mounts done using that
                                node will fail). For fuse mounts, you
                                could try tweaking the write-behind
                                xlator settings to see if it helps. See
                                the performance.write-behind and
                                performance.write-behind-windo<wbr>w-size
                                options in `gluster volume set help`. Of
                                course, even for gnfs mounts, you can
                                achieve fail-over by using CTDB.<br>
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                          <div>Ravi,<br>
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                          <div>      Do you have any data that suggests
                            fuse mounts are slower than gNFS servers? <br>
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                          <div>Pat,<br>
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                          <div>      I see that I am late to the thread,
                            but do you happen to have &quot;profile info&quot; of
                            the workload?<br>
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                </span> I have done actual testing. For directory ops,
                NFS is faster due to the default cache settings in the
                kernel. For raw throughput, or ops on an open file, fuse
                is faster.<br>
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                I have yet to test this but I expect with the newer
                caching features in 3.8+, even directory op performance
                should be similar to nfs and more accurate.</div>
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            <div>We are actually comparing fuse+gluster and kernel NFS
              (n the same brick. Did you get a chance to do this test
              at  any point?<br>
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    No, that&#39;s not comparing like to like and I&#39;ve rarely had a use case
    to which a single-store NFS was the answer.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Exactly. Why is it so bad compared to kNFS? Is there any scope for improvement is the question we are trying to find answer to. If there is everyone wins :-)<br><br></div><div>PS: I may not respond till tomorrow. Will go to sleep now.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div><div class="h5"><br>
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                            <div>You can follow <a href="https://gluster.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Administrator%20Guide/Monitoring%20Workload/" target="_blank">https://gluster.readthedocs.io<wbr>/en/latest/Administrator%20Gui<wbr>de/Monitoring%20Workload/</a>
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                                      On 04/08/2017 12:07 AM, Pat Haley
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                                      Hi,<br>
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                                      We noticed a dramatic slowness
                                      when writing to a gluster disk
                                      when compared to writing to an NFS
                                      disk. Specifically when using dd
                                      (data duplicator) to write a 4.3
                                      GB file of zeros:<br>
                                      <ul>
                                        <li>on NFS disk (/home): 9.5
                                          Gb/s</li>
                                        <li>on gluster disk (/gdata):
                                          508 Mb/s<br>
                                        </li>
                                      </ul>
                                      The gluser disk is 2 bricks joined
                                      together, no replication or
                                      anything else. The hardware is
                                      (literally) the same:<br>
                                      <ul>
                                        <li>one server with 70 hard
                                          disks  and a hardware RAID
                                          card.</li>
                                        <li>4 disks in a RAID-6 group
                                          (the NFS disk)</li>
                                        <li>32 disks in a RAID-6 group
                                          (the max allowed by the card,
                                          /mnt/brick1)</li>
                                        <li>32 disks in another RAID-6
                                          group (/mnt/brick2)</li>
                                        <li>2 hot spare<br>
                                        </li>
                                      </ul>
                                      <p>Some additional information and
                                        more tests results (after
                                        changing the log level):<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p><span>glusterfs 3.7.11 built on
                                          Apr 27 2016 14:09:22</span><br>
                                        <span>CentOS release 6.8 (Final)</span><br>
                                        RAID bus controller: LSI Logic /
                                        Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS-3
                                        3108 [Invader] (rev 02)<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Create the file to /gdata
                                          (gluster)</b><br>
                                        [root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/dev/zero of=/gdata/zero1
                                        bs=1M count=1000<br>
                                        1000+0 records in<br>
                                        1000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 1.91876 s, <b>546 MB/s</b><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Create the file to /home
                                          (ext4)</b><br>
                                        [root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/dev/zero of=/home/zero1
                                        bs=1M count=1000<br>
                                        1000+0 records in<br>
                                        1000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 0.686021 s, <b>1.5 GB/s
                                          - </b>3 times as fast<b><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Copy from /gdata to /gdata
                                          (gluster to gluster)<br>
                                        </b>[root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/gdata/zero1 of=/gdata/zero2<br>
                                        2048000+0 records in<br>
                                        2048000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 101.052 s, <b>10.4 MB/s</b>
                                        - realllyyy slooowww<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Copy from /gdata to /gdata</b>
                                        <b>2nd time <b>(gluster to
                                            gluster)</b></b><br>
                                        [root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/gdata/zero1 of=/gdata/zero2<br>
                                        2048000+0 records in<br>
                                        2048000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 92.4904 s, <b>11.3 MB/s</b>
                                        <span>- realllyyy slooowww</span>
                                        again<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Copy from /home to /home
                                          (ext4 to ext4)</b><br>
                                        [root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/home/zero1 of=/home/zero2<br>
                                        2048000+0 records in<br>
                                        2048000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 3.53263 s, <b>297 MB/s
                                        </b>30 times as fast<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Copy from /home to /home
                                          (ext4 to ext4)</b><br>
                                        [root@mseas-data2 gdata]# dd
                                        if=/home/zero1 of=/home/zero3<br>
                                        2048000+0 records in<br>
                                        2048000+0 records out<br>
                                        1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB)
                                        copied, 4.1737 s, <b>251 MB/s</b>
                                        <span>- 30 times as fast<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          As a test, can we copy data
                                          directly to the xfs mountpoint
                                          (/mnt/brick1) and bypass
                                          gluster?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Any help you could give us
                                          would be appreciated.<br>
                                          <br>
                                        </span>Thanks<br>
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