<div dir="auto">I'm not acting like a customer, but having lost a whole cluster twice for the same reason (hopefully they was test cluster with no valuable data only because I'm still waiting for an hardware part that has still to arrive) I'm a little bit angry.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The commercial solution isn't a solution because this bug is present even there.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I haven't put my company data on this cluster only because the HBA I would like to use isn't delivered to my address and I'm waiting for it and for a shorter rack rails</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I was a little but luck. If I has all the hardware part, probably i would be firesd after causing data loss by using a software marked as stable</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is known that this feature is causing data loss and there is no evidence or no warning in official docs.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il 30 apr 2017 12:14 AM, <<a href="mailto:lemonnierk@ulrar.net" target="_blank">lemonnierk@ulrar.net</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have to agree though, you keep acting like a customer.<br>
If you don't like what the developers focus on, you are free to<br>
try and offer a bounty to motivate someone to look at what you want,<br>
or even better : go and buy a license for one of gluster's commercial<br>
alternatives.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:43:54PM +0200, Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote:<br>
> I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to sleep well even after your block.<br>
><br>
> Il 29 apr 2017 11:28 PM, "Joe Julian" <<a href="mailto:joe@julianfamily.org">joe@julianfamily.org</a>> ha scritto:<br>
><br>
> > No, you proposed a wish. A feature needs described behavior, certainly a<br>
> > lot more than "it should just know what I want it to do".<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm done. You can continue to feel entitled here on the mailing list. I'll<br>
> > just set my filters to bitbucket anything from you.<br>
> ><br>
> > On 04/29/2017 01:00 PM, Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > I repeat: I've just proposed a feature<br>
> > I'm not a C developer and I don't know gluster internals, so I can't<br>
> > provide details<br>
> ><br>
> > I've just asked if simplifying the add brick process is something that<br>
> > developers are interested to add<br>
> ><br>
> > Il 29 apr 2017 9:34 PM, "Joe Julian" <<a href="mailto:joe@julianfamily.org">joe@julianfamily.org</a>> ha scritto:<br>
> ><br>
> >> What I said publicly in another email ... but not to call out my<br>
> >> perception of your behavior publicly if also like to say:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Acting adversarial doesn't make anybody want to help, especially not me<br>
> >> and I'm the user community's biggest proponent.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On April 29, 2017 11:08:45 AM PDT, Gandalf Corvotempesta <<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:gandalf.corvotempesta@gmail.com">gandalf.corvotempesta@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Mine was a suggestion<br>
> >>> Fell free to ignore was gluster users has to say and still keep going<br>
> >>> though your way<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Usually, open source project tends to follow users suggestions<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Il 29 apr 2017 5:32 PM, "Joe Julian" <<a href="mailto:joe@julianfamily.org">joe@julianfamily.org</a>> ha scritto:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> Since this is an open source community project, not a company product,<br>
> >>>> feature requests like these are welcome, but would be more welcome with<br>
> >>>> either code or at least a well described method. Broad asks like these are<br>
> >>>> of little value, imho.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On 04/29/2017 07:12 AM, Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>> Anyway, the proposed workaround:<br>
> >>>>> <a href="https://joejulian.name/blog/how-to-expand-glusterfs-replicat" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://joejulian.name/blog/<wbr>how-to-expand-glusterfs-<wbr>replicat</a><br>
> >>>>> ed-clusters-by-one-server/<br>
> >>>>> won't work with just a single volume made up of 2 replicated bricks.<br>
> >>>>> If I have a replica 2 volume with server1:brick1 and server2:brick1,<br>
> >>>>> how can I add server3:brick1 ?<br>
> >>>>> I don't have any bricks to "replace"<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> This is something i would like to see implemented in gluster.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> 2017-04-29 16:08 GMT+02:00 Gandalf Corvotempesta<br>
> >>>>> <<a href="mailto:gandalf.corvotempesta@gmail.com">gandalf.corvotempesta@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>> 2017-04-24 10:21 GMT+02:00 Pranith Kumar Karampuri <<br>
> >>>>>> <a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>>:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Are you suggesting this process to be easier through commands,<br>
> >>>>>>> rather than<br>
> >>>>>>> for administrators to figure out how to place the data?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> [1] <a href="http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2016-July/0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.gluster.org/<wbr>pipermail/gluster-users/2016-<wbr>July/0</a><br>
> >>>>>>> 27431.html<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Admin should always have the ability to choose where to place data,<br>
> >>>>>> but something<br>
> >>>>>> easier should be added, like in any other SDS.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Something like:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> gluster volume add-brick gv0 new_brick<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> if gv0 is a replicated volume, the add-brick should automatically add<br>
> >>>>>> the new brick and rebalance data automatically, still keeping the<br>
> >>>>>> required redundancy level<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> In case admin would like to set a custom placement for data, it should<br>
> >>>>>> specify a "force" argument or something similiar.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> tl;dr: as default, gluster should preserve data redundancy allowing<br>
> >>>>>> users to add single bricks without having to think how to place data.<br>
> >>>>>> This will make gluster way easier to manage and much less error prone,<br>
> >>>>>> thus increasing the resiliency of the whole gluster.<br>
> >>>>>> after all , if you have a replicated volume, is obvious that you want<br>
> >>>>>> your data to be replicated and gluster should manage this on it's own.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Is this something are you planning or considering for further<br>
> >>>>>> implementation?<br>
> >>>>>> I know that lack of metadata server (this is a HUGE advantage for<br>
> >>>>>> gluster) means less flexibility, but as there is a manual workaround<br>
> >>>>>> for adding<br>
> >>>>>> single bricks, gluster should be able to handle this automatically.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
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