<html><head></head><body>I'm sorry, you lost me there. Could you rephrase?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 7, 2021 4:54:09 PM PDT, Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw.ml@ithnet.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Joe, all tools are available. All that is needed is a _personal decision_ to<br>use them. It is a personal decision to <br>- not give all your contacts to whatsapp, gmail, apple, hotmail, facebook<br> but use an own cloud instance for it<br>- not drag all your contacts into whatsapp<br> but give them an XMPP account instead<br>- not give google and apple all your tracking data<br> but reflash your mobile and feed your data into your personal mqtt service<br>- not use gmail accounts<br> but use your own private email service<br>- not use zoom,webex,teams et al<br> but use your cloud service for that<br>- not use whatsapp/facebook for voice/video calls<br> but use your XMPP client for that with no need to give your mobile number<br><br>It's all _there_ _now_. If you don't use it you simply _decided_ against it.<br>Make that transparent to yourself.<br>--<br>Regards,<br>Stephan<br><br><br><br><br>On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:34:51 -0700<br>Joe Julian <joe@julianfamily.org> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Most people already use slack for work and most of the projects with <br>high engagement use it, too. While I agree that I wish the open source <br>community would adopt open source tools, the reality is we still use <br>GitHub, Slack, and Zoom for the majority of them. Using the tools that <br>your community is already using is usually a more effective way of <br>supporting engagement.<br><br>On 6/7/21 2:18 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> And why don't you just do the right thing and drop these semi-closed-source<br> stuff and use XMPP, about the only free/GPLed messenger service.<br> It has:<br> - no central provider<br> - no central servers<br> - server software free for anyone to install<br> - lots of free xmpp services around<br> - crypted or not crypted on user choice<br> <br> -> <a href="https://xmpp.org/">https://xmpp.org/</a> <br><br> You use email, why?<br><br> --<br> Regards,<br> Stephan<br><br><br> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:41:11 +0530<br> Amar Tumballi <amar@kadalu.io> wrote:<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> We (at least many developers and some users) actively use Slack at<br> <a href="https://gluster.slack.com">https://gluster.slack.com</a><br><br> While I agree that it's not a free/open alternative to IRC, it does get<br> many questions answered, and also gets communication happen related to the<br> project.<br><br> Regards,<br> Amar<br><br><br> On Mon, 7 Jun, 2021, 9:27 pm Jordan Erickson, < <br> jerickson@logicalnetworking.net> wrote: <br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm relatively new to the community but I would vote for having a point<br> of presence on libera.chat, or OFTC as some other F/OSS projects are<br> moving there as an alternative. I use IRC daily for supporting my own<br> projects as well as related projects such as GlusterFS. Personally I<br> hadn't heard of Matrix until the whole Freenode fiasco happened, so I<br> would imagine others may be in the same boat. Anyway, just my $0.02 :)<br><br><br> Cheers,<br> Jordan Erickson<br><br><br> On 6/7/21 5:51 AM, Anoop C S wrote: <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi all,<br><br> I hope many of us are aware of the recent changes that happened at<br> Freenode IRC network(in case you are not, feel free to look into<br> details based on various resignation letters from long-time then<br> Freenode staff starting with [1]). In the light of this take over<br> situation, many open source communities have moved over to its<br> replacement i.e, libera.chat[2].<br><br> Now I would like to open this up to GlusterFS community to think about<br> moving forward with our current IRC channels(#gluster, #gluster-dev and<br> #gluster-meeting) on Freenode. How important are those channels for<br> GlusterFS project? How about moving over to libera.chat in case we<br> stick to IRC communication?<br><br> Let's discuss and conclude on the way forward..<br><br> Note:- Matrix[3] platform is also an option nowadays and we do have a<br> Gluster room(#gluster:matrix.org) there ! welcome..welcome :-)<br><br> Regards,<br> Anoop C S<br><br><br> [1] <a href="https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt">https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt</a><br> [2] <a href="https://libera.chat/">https://libera.chat/</a><br> [3] <a href="https://matrix.org/">https://matrix.org/</a><hr> Community Meeting Calendar:<br><br> Schedule -<br> Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC<br> Bridge: <a href="https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk">https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk</a><br> Gluster-users mailing list<br> Gluster-users@gluster.org<br> <a href="https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users">https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users</a><br> <br></blockquote> --<br> Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB)<br> Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678<hr> Community Meeting Calendar:<br><br> Schedule -<br> Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC<br> Bridge: <a href="https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk">https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk</a><br> Gluster-users mailing list<br> Gluster-users@gluster.org<br> <a href="https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users">https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users</a><br> <br></blockquote></blockquote><hr> Community Meeting Calendar:<br> Schedule -<br> Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC<br> Bridge: <a href="https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk">https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk</a><br><br> Gluster-devel mailing list<br> Gluster-devel@gluster.org<br> <a href="https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel">https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel</a><br> <br></blockquote><hr>Community Meeting Calendar:<br>Schedule -<br>Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC<br>Bridge: <a href="https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk">https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk</a><br><br>Gluster-devel mailing list<br>Gluster-devel@gluster.org<br><a href="https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel">https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel</a><br><br></blockquote></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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