<div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:11 PM Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <<a href="mailto:sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com">sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri<br>
<<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> hi,<br>
> Quite a few commands to monitor gluster at the moment take almost a<br>
> second to give output.<br>
<br>
Is this at the (most) minimum recommended cluster size?<br>
<br>
> Some categories of these commands:<br>
> 1) Any command that needs to do some sort of mount/glfs_init.<br>
> Examples: 1) heal info family of commands 2) statfs to find<br>
> space-availability etc (On my laptop replica 3 volume with all local bricks,<br>
> glfs_init takes 0.3 seconds on average)<br>
> 2) glusterd commands that need to wait for the previous command to unlock.<br>
> If the previous command is something related to lvm snapshot which takes<br>
> quite a few seconds, it would be even more time consuming.<br>
><br>
> Nowadays container workloads have hundreds of volumes if not thousands. If<br>
> we want to serve any monitoring solution at this scale (I have seen<br>
> customers use upto 600 volumes at a time, it will only get bigger) and lets<br>
> say collecting metrics per volume takes 2 seconds per volume(Let us take the<br>
> worst example which has all major features enabled like<br>
> snapshot/geo-rep/quota etc etc), that will mean that it will take 20 minutes<br>
> to collect metrics of the cluster with 600 volumes. What are the ways in<br>
> which we can make this number more manageable? I was initially thinking may<br>
> be it is possible to get gd2 to execute commands in parallel on different<br>
> volumes, so potentially we could get this done in ~2 seconds. But quite a<br>
> few of the metrics need a mount or equivalent of a mount(glfs_init) to<br>
> collect different information like statfs, number of pending heals, quota<br>
> usage etc. This may lead to high memory usage as the size of the mounts tend<br>
> to be high.<br>
><br>
<br>
I am not sure if starting from the "worst example" (it certainly is<br>
not) is a good place to start from. That said, for any environment<br>
with that number of disposable volumes, what kind of metrics do<br>
actually make any sense/impact?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is really interesting question. When we have more number of disposable volumes, I think we need metrics like available size in the cluster to create more volumes than the utilization per volumes. (If we need to observe the usage patterns of applications then we need per volume utilization as well)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> I wanted to seek suggestions from others on how to come to a conclusion<br>
> about which path to take and what problems to solve.<br>
><br>
> I will be happy to raise github issues based on our conclusions on this mail<br>
> thread.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Pranith<br>
><br>
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-- <br>
sankarshan mukhopadhyay<br>
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