<div dir="ltr">We could stand to use our words better on this stuff. Even though we&#39;ve thought about it a lot, it&#39;s not always clear about what we mean in the roles and responsibilities.<div>I&#39;ll put a ticket into the Community Working Group to use more words about this.</div><div>- amye</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Raghavendra Gowdappa <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rgowdapp@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgowdapp@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Amye Scavarda <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:amye@redhat.com" target="_blank">amye@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Responding on the architects question: <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-">On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Amar Tumballi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:atumball@redhat.com" target="_blank">atumball@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-m_-8513683438235585989m_-9084384969811362641m_-399051075635329153gmail-">&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Further, as we hit end of March, we would make it mandatory for features<br>
&gt;&gt; to have required spec and doc labels, before the code is merged, so<br>
&gt;&gt; factor in efforts for the same if not already done.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Could you explain the point above further? Is it just the label or the<br>
&gt; spec/doc<br>
&gt; that we need merged before the patch is merged?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</span>I&#39;ll hazard a guess that the intent of the label is to indicate<br>
availability of the doc. &quot;Completeness&quot; of code is being defined as<br>
including specifications and documentation.<br>
<br></blockquote><div> </div></span><div>I believe this has originated from maintainers meeting agreements [1] . The proposal to make a spec and documentation mandatory was submitted 3 months back and is documented, and submitted for comment @ <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFkZmRRDXRxs21GnGauieIyiIiRZ-nTEW8CPi7Gbp3g/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docu<wbr>ment/d/1AFkZmRRDXRxs21GnGauieI<wbr>yiIiRZ-nTEW8CPi7Gbp3g/edit?usp<wbr>=sharing</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Thanks! This clears almost all the doubts I had :).<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The document above refers to Architects - &quot;<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Now Architects are approved to revert a patch which violates by either not having github issue nor bug-id, or uses a bug-id to get the feature in etc.</span>&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>Who are they? What are their responsibilities?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>In our last reboot of the maintainers readme file, we expanded the architects role:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/master/MAINTAINERS" target="_blank">https://github.com/gluster/glu<wbr>sterfs/blob/master/MAINTAINERS</a><wbr> </div><div><table class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-highlight m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-tab-size m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line-container" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI Symbol&quot;;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><tbody style="box-sizing:border-box"><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC52" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">General Project Architects</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L53" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC53" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">--------------------------</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L54" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC54" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">M: Jeff Darcy &lt;<a href="mailto:jeff@pl.atyp.us" target="_blank">jeff@pl.atyp.us</a>&gt;</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L55" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC55" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">M: Vijay Bellur &lt;<a href="mailto:vbellur@redhat.com" target="_blank">vbellur@redhat.com</a>&gt;</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L56" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC56" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">P: Amar Tumballi &lt;<a href="mailto:amarts@redhat.com" target="_blank">amarts@redhat.com</a>&gt;</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L57" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC57" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">P: Pranith Karampuri &lt;<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L58" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC58" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">P: Raghavendra Gowdappa &lt;<a href="mailto:rgowdapp@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgowdapp@redhat.com</a>&gt;</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L59" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,&quot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present or not. If the feature is &#39;default&#39;, and there is no documentation required, just mention it, so the flags can be given. Also, if there is no general agreement about the design, it doesn&#39;t make sense to merge a feature and then someone has to redo things.</div><div><br></div><div>For any experimental code, which we want to publish for other developers to test, who doesn&#39;t need documentation, we have &#39;experimental&#39; branch, which should be used for validation. <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> [1] - <a href="http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2017-December/054070.html" target="_blank">http://lists.gluster.org/pip<wbr>ermail/gluster-devel/2017-Dece<wbr>mber/054070.html</a></div></div>
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