<div dir="ltr">We could stand to use our words better on this stuff. Even though we've thought about it a lot, it's not always clear about what we mean in the roles and responsibilities.<div>I'll put a ticket into the Community Working Group to use more words about this.</div><div>- amye</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Raghavendra Gowdappa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgowdapp@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgowdapp@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Amye Scavarda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amye@redhat.com" target="_blank">amye@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Responding on the architects question: <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-">On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com" target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Amar Tumballi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atumball@redhat.com" target="_blank">atumball@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-m_-8513683438235585989m_-9084384969811362641m_-399051075635329153gmail-">>><br>
>> Further, as we hit end of March, we would make it mandatory for features<br>
>> to have required spec and doc labels, before the code is merged, so<br>
>> factor in efforts for the same if not already done.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Could you explain the point above further? Is it just the label or the<br>
> spec/doc<br>
> that we need merged before the patch is merged?<br>
><br>
<br>
</span>I'll hazard a guess that the intent of the label is to indicate<br>
availability of the doc. "Completeness" of code is being defined as<br>
including specifications and documentation.<br>
<br></blockquote><div> </div></span><div>I believe this has originated from maintainers meeting agreements [1] . The proposal to make a spec and documentation mandatory was submitted 3 months back and is documented, and submitted for comment @ <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFkZmRRDXRxs21GnGauieIyiIiRZ-nTEW8CPi7Gbp3g/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docu<wbr>ment/d/1AFkZmRRDXRxs21GnGauieI<wbr>yiIiRZ-nTEW8CPi7Gbp3g/edit?usp<wbr>=sharing</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Thanks! This clears almost all the doubts I had :).<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The document above refers to Architects - "<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Now Architects are approved to revert a patch which violates by either not having github issue nor bug-id, or uses a bug-id to get the feature in etc.</span>"</div><div><br></div><div>Who are they? What are their responsibilities?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>In our last reboot of the maintainers readme file, we expanded the architects role:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/master/MAINTAINERS" target="_blank">https://github.com/gluster/glu<wbr>sterfs/blob/master/MAINTAINERS</a><wbr> </div><div><table class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-highlight m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-tab-size m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line-container" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI 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style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L53" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,"Liberation Mono",Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC53" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,"Liberation 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Mono",Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">P: Niels de Vos <<a href="mailto:ndevos@redhat.com" target="_blank">ndevos@redhat.com</a>></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L61" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,"Liberation Mono",Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-LC61" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-code-inner m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-file-line" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;line-height:20px;vertical-align:top;overflow:visible;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,"Liberation Mono",Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;color:rgb(36,41,46);word-wrap:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">P: Xavier Hernandez <<a href="mailto:xhernandez@datalab.es" target="_blank">xhernandez@datalab.es</a>></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td id="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-L62" class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-blob-num m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-js-line-number" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 10px;width:50px;min-width:50px;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Consolas,"Liberation Mono",Menlo,Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:20px;color:rgba(27,31,35,0.3);text-align:right;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:top"></td></tr></tbody></table>What should we work to make more clear about this? </div><div>- amye </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>Thanks for that clarification amye. I had a confusion whether the terminology was referring to roles listed in MAINTAINERS file. Now that you've clarified, my confusion is cleared.<br></div><span class=""><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><span class="m_3443834341222791794m_-3570303981610724036gmail-"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div>The idea is, if the code is going to be released, it should have relevant documentation for users to use it, otherwise, it doesn't matter if the feature is present or not. If the feature is 'default', and there is no documentation required, just mention it, so the flags can be given. Also, if there is no general agreement about the design, it doesn't make sense to merge a feature and then someone has to redo things.</div><div><br></div><div>For any experimental code, which we want to publish for other developers to test, who doesn't need documentation, we have 'experimental' branch, which should be used for validation. <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> [1] - <a href="http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2017-December/054070.html" target="_blank">http://lists.gluster.org/pip<wbr>ermail/gluster-devel/2017-Dece<wbr>mber/054070.html</a></div></div>
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