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    On 05/26/2017 11:38 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Joe
            Julian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <p>Forwarded for posterity and follow-up.<br>
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                        <td>Re: GlusterFS removal from Openstack Cinder</td>
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                        <td>Fri, 05 May 2017 21:07:27 +0000</td>
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                        <td>Amye Scavarda <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          Joe Julian <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          Vijay Bellur <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        <td>Amye Scavarda <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <div>Eric, </div>
                  <div>I'm sorry to hear this. </div>
                  <div>I'm reaching out internally (within Gluster CI
                    team and CentOS CI which supports Gluster) to get an
                    idea of the level of effort we'll need to provide to
                    resolve this. </div>
                  <div>It'll take me a few days to get this, but this is
                    on my radar. In the meantime, is there somewhere I
                    should be looking at for requirements to meet this
                    gateway? </div>
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                  <div>Thanks! </div>
                  <div>-- amye </div>
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                      <div>On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 16:09 Joe Julian &lt;<a
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                        Eric Harney wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt; On 04/28/2017 12:41 PM, Joe Julian
                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; I learned, today, that GlusterFS
                        was deprecated and removed from<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; Cinder as one of our #gluster
                        (freenode) users was attempting to<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; upgrade openstack. I could find no
                        rational nor discussion of that<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt; removal. Could you please educate
                        me about that decision?<br>
                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; Hi Joe,<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; I can fill in on the rationale here.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; Keeping a driver in the Cinder tree
                        requires running a CI platform to<br>
                        &gt; test that driver and report results against
                        all patchsets submitted to<br>
                        &gt; Cinder.  This is a fairly large burden,
                        which we could not meet once the<br>
                        &gt; Gluster Cinder driver was no longer an
                        active development target at Red Hat.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; This was communicated via a warning issued
                        by the driver for anyone<br>
                        &gt; running the OpenStack Newton code, and via
                        the Cinder release notes for<br>
                        &gt; the Ocata release.  (I can see in
                        retrospect that this was probably not<br>
                        &gt; communicated widely enough.)<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; I apologize for not reaching out to the
                        Gluster community about this.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; If someone from the Gluster world is
                        interested in bringing this driver<br>
                        &gt; back, I can help coordinate there.  But it
                        will require someone stepping<br>
                        &gt; in in a big way to maintain it.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; Thanks,<br>
                        &gt; Eric<br>
                        <br>
                        Ah, Red Hat's statement that the acquisition of
                        InkTank was not an<br>
                        abandonment of Gluster seems rather disingenuous
                        now. I'm disappointed.<br>
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            <div>I am a Red Hat employee working on gluster and I am
              happy with the kind of investments the company did in
              GlusterFS. Still am. It is a pretty good company and
              really open. I never had any trouble saying something the
              management did is wrong when I strongly felt and they
              would give a decent reason for their decision.<br>
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    Happy to hear that. Still looks like meddling to an outsider. Not
    the Gluster team's fault though (although more participation of the
    developers in community meetings would probably help with that
    feeling of being disconnected, in my own personal opinion).<br>
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                        Would you please start a thread on the
                        gluster-users and gluster-devel<br>
                        mailing lists and see if there's anyone willing
                        to take ownership of<br>
                        this. I'm certainly willing to participate as
                        well but my $dayjob has<br>
                        gone more kubernetes than openstack so I have
                        only my limited free time<br>
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            <div>Do we know what would maintaining cinder as active
              entail? Did Eric get back to any of you?<br>
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    Haven't heard anything more, no.<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Amye Scavarda | <a
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